In his new book, Everything is Spiritual: Who We Are and What We're Doing Here, New York Times bestselling author Rob Bell explores the endless dynamic questions and connections that have shaped his life, providing powerful insight into understanding one's purpose and place in the world. And I am thrilled to be in conversation with him this week. Listen in to hear me and Rob talk about his 11th book (!!), the nature of life, why "looking for" spirit is playing the wrong game, why hope needs to be apocalyptic, the problem with all those ladders we've gotten really good at climbing, and what's important to know about boredom and death. Rob Bell has been one of my greatest teachers and I'm so excited to introduce him to you! PS. Applications for the RYHSY Inner Circle close on Friday 9/25! Get all the details here! What He Said: "The elimination of obstacles, barriers, and discomfort is a recipe for boredom."  "Spirit is often lurking in whatever you most dislike." "I want people to experience the wonder and awe of their own existence." "Having your palms up to let go is the only way you can receive anything." Those Timestamps: 00:35 - Unfolding why 'Everything is Spiritual' 14:01 - Spiritual awakening in a modern world 18:30 - On apocalyptic hope 21:52 - Moving slowly and presently 27:36 - Embracing rest and rhythm and welcoming sabbath 31:19 - A different perspective of life & death  38:56 - The wonder of your own existence 43:33 - Palms up and let go Show Notes:  Applications are open for the Inner Circle! Connect with Rob: Site | Podcast | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook Rob's new book: Everything is Spiritual