The two of us think and talk a lot about ~the state of media~, and we figured it was about time we discussed it with a genuine expert. Enter stage left: the thoughtful and incredibly incisive Delia Cai, who writes the newsletter we always open Deez Links (and is a growth and trends editor at BuzzFeed by day—so clearly she’s on top of all the things.) We also figured it was ‘bout time to discuss Claire’s experience with Whole30, at least as it relates to their insurrection content.   You can find the Whole30 insurrection statement right over here (the Jan. 7 post).   The BuzzFeed article titled “The Small-Town America I Love Is The One I See At Football Games” that first led Erica to Delia (shout-out Dunlap High School—go eagles!).   You gotta, gotta sign for Delia’s newsletter Deez Links if you care about media (or good TikToks) at all. An adjacent, relevant newsletter: Today in Tabs.   For more on Substack, dive into Clio Chang’s “The Substackerati” piece for CJR (and its discussion of Patrice Peck’s Coronavirus News for Black Folks newletter) as well as Anna Wiener’s “Is Substack the Media Future We Want?” for The New Yorker.   Writers Delia always reads: Taylor Lorenz, Doreen St. Félix, and Hua Hsu.   Two Deez Links installments we discuss: Delia's piece about a profile of Nick Quah and Hot Pod and a very LOLZy one about fantasy media men beefs.   You know about Secret Menu, yah? And how to get your feedback to us? That’s 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.    Give COOLA and its excellent new Organic Skincare line a go and take 10% off with the code ATHINGORTWO. Play Best Fiends today—you can download it for free on the Apple App Store or Google Play. Get creative with Skillshare and sign up for a free trial of their Premium Membership. Design something cool with Projector. It’s totally free to sign up. YAY.   Produced by Dear Media