We interview Dr. David Aveline about his new project studying people who see or experience ghosts.  He's just getting started, but it's a really interesting conversation about how one puts together research into such a strange and complicated topic. Notes: An article about Dr. Aveline's research   The Thomas Theorem (1928) by William Isaac Thomas and Dorothy Swaine Thomas “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.” The Banff Springs Hotel - allegedly haunted hotel discussed in the episode The Stanley Hotel - Colorado hotel, inspiration for The Overlook in The Shining