Just Friends? | With Tony Hale

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Just Friends? | With Tony Hale

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27 minutes

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Jul 20, 2016

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Emmy Award-winning actor Tony Hale of HBO's "Veep" reads an essay about breaking up, moving on (or not), and reading between the lines.

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Jul 20, 2016

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Modern Love features top actors performing true stories of love, loss, and redemption. It has included performances by Kate Winslet, Uma Thurman, Angela Bassett, Jake Gyllenhaal, Sterling K. Brown, and more. A collaboration between WBUR and The New York Times.

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Just Friends? | With Tony Hale

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