To start, JP and Pete ask Phillips about his article on Kevin O'Connell, in which he asks whether KOC is going to be the Redskins' next head coach. Are the Sean McVay comparisons fair, and what goes into being the leader in Washington? All that, and more, is covered. Then, the guys turn toward Richmond, as Phillips delivers yet another terrific preview of what's to come at training camp. You'll learn about scooters, buses, restaurants and advice for taking in the action, as the trio give their tips and favorite parts about the whole experience. If you like podcasts where Pete considers doing menial chores for cash and Phillips delivers a profound line about coaching the Redskins, then this is the episode for you.