This week Jaci & Chelsey talk about rising above your trials with Ashley Lemieux. Ashley is a writer, speaker, and entrepreneur. Ashley originally started the Shine Project to employ and help inner city youth and now it has turned into a community for women to feel empowered. Ashley shares her story of losing her kids and the grief that follows. They also discuss the difference between pain and suffering and something Ashley likes to call the “club of life”. @ashleyklemieux @theshineproject   FOLLOW US!! INSTA// WWS Jaci Chelsey  YOUTUBE//  Chelsey Jade Jaci Marie   WE LOVE OUR SPONSORS & YOU WILL TOO//   FOUR SIGMATIC: receive 15% off your Four Sigmatic purchase. Go to foursigmatic.com/WHATWESAID or use discount code WHATWESAID at checkout. OPENFIT: 30-day FREE trial membership when you text WESAID to 303030