In this episode, Shawn Bolz interviews Jay Owenhouse. Jay is a magician and illusionist who operates the second-largest touring magic show in the United States. As a Christian who hears from God, he uses this platform to show people Romans 8:28, and how God can use everything and work it all together for our good.  Tune in to hear Shawn and Jay discuss his emotional journey of losing their beautiful wife and mother. He talks about where God was during this painful time of their lives, a new birthing that came for the whole family of a greater measure of faith for what God wanted to do, and the comforting vision the Lord gave him that brought him peace and hope. His beautiful story and testimony will help you process in the pain, even when the healing doesn’t come.