On this episode of the podcast we talk with Keith Schwab a glider pilot with a PhD in physics who didn’t always love flying in fact, While on a commercial flight crossing the Atlantic in some very extreme turbulence he found himself stuck in the bathroom gripping the handles that caused him to develop a serious fear of flying. Then something happened in 2014 while hiking one of the mountain peaks near Los Angeles that would change that fear and his path to aviation. later on this episode we will also discuss the opportunities for the soaring community to grow and possibly find a way to fund those that dream to soar.