In this episode of the PleinAir Podcast, Publisher Eric Rhoads interviews artist Heiner Hertling, the engaging artist/host of a PBS painting show modeled after Bob Ross' popular series from the 1980s. Produced with a more academic and entertaining approach, Rhoads and Hertling discuss the origins of the show and logistics involved with its production. In addition, the two delve into Hertling's captivating biography from his native Hamburg, Germany, to New York and Detroit.