Ben and Ashley open up about the heartbreaking news about Shawn Booth and Kaitlyn Bristowe, and try to figure out what happened between them, and why this break-up feels like a marriage ending. 




Then, Wells Adams stops by, to get caught up on everything going on in his world, and the exciting new project he’s starting with iHeartRadio.




Plus Ben and Ashley sit down with Graham Bunn, and he spills about his new TV show, and how it was transitioning from The Bachelorette into a radio and TV career.




And we hear how Jared and Ashley are spending their first holidays since getting engaged! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers