It's been said that poetry and physics are the same thing, so on today's Heinemann Podcast we're examining the poetry of science. Language and literature can work in the same way science does. Both literature and science have stability and change. Both also have cause and effect.  In their book; Sharing Books, Talking Science, this is what authors Valerie Bang-Jensen and Mark Lubkowitz call "crosscutting concepts". In today's conversation they're joined by author, Amy Ludwig VanDerwater, poet and author of Poems Are Teachers. They've come together to explore how different lenses can help us to better understand complicated concepts. Our journey to this conversation is an interesting one. We start the podcast by learning how these author's ideas intersected.Our thanks to Amy, Mark and Valerie for their time today. If you'd like to know about both books; Poems are Teachers by Amy Ludwig Vanderwater and Sharing Books, Talking Science by Mark Lubkowitz and Valerie Bang-Jensen, visit the Heinemann website for more on both books. You can listen to podcasts from the authors, read sample chapters and watch videos with them. You can also follow Heinemann on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram as well as our various Facebook Groups. Plus you can get a daily teacher tip - right on your phone directly from Heinemann authors by downloading the Heinemann Teacher Tip App. All this and more on Heinemann.com