In this Podcast, AT and I explore his Life Time Astrology model.  It is a technique, you can see conception, gestation, whose idea it was to concieve (mom or dad) and much more fractalized insight into the nature of the human organism.  It's one of those conversations that will have you confused and in awe for quite some time.  And it's only the beginning.
Enjoy
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