JP Finlay, Mitch Tischler, Pete Hailey and an extra energetic Brian Mitchell are the voices who'll take you through this chapter of Redskins Talk. After botching the open so badly that they needed to get back in the huddle and restart, the guys open up a lengthy discussion on Jay Gruden that goes a bunch of different ways. Among the questions asked about Gruden in the discussion: Does he deserve to be on the list of coaches most likely to be fired in 2018? How much credit should he get for making the 'Skins respectable? And is he the guy to elevate the Burgundy and Gold? It's all interesting stuff and leads to a lot of good points that'll make you think as you're sitting in devastating traffic or mowing your lawn. The end portion of the pod, meanwhile, is devoted to a neat idea that JP is cooking up and a strong Russ Grimm story, as told by B-Mitch. If you like podcasts where it's revealed that Brian plays more games on his phone than a teenager and Pete is muted for the first time in a long time, then this is the episode for you.