An already awful week for the Sounders got even worst when Clint Dempsey saw red and the final score in Dallas read 3-0 ... same as it did in Guadalajara midweek when the Rave Green crashed out of the Concacaf Champions League. The guys jump in the Green Room to diagnose the back-to-back MLS Cup finalist's issues (injuries, fitness, form and a lack of cohesion), then turn to the rest of MLS Week 3. Did Kendall Waston deserve to be sent off against Atlanta United? Are NYCFC the best team in MLS? Can Orlando City weather the storm (and the pressure) that's quickly building? Is Toronto FC's MLS form down to a CCL hangover? Are Montreal on the upswing after a Canadian Classique win and a few big signings? Are the Loons for real (and what's wrong with the Fire)? Plus, musings from the SoccerPlex and Sporting Park. Also in this episode ... MLSsoccer.com national writer Sam Stejskal on Seattle's DP search, USMNT roster reaction, Red Bulls supporters on CCL vs. MLS Cup and a packed mailbag.