Uri and Dr. Mark Mateski have a conversation about the levels of Red Teaming, the next steps and how do we get better at Red Teaming.
We recorded this on the field, and the sound is not the best. Apologies for that. Bear with us. If you can wait 2 minutes into the episode, it gets better.
Based on Mark's "Climbing the Red Teaming Ladder", the levels of Red Teaming are a very clear way forward.
Books mentioned by Mark:
Drift into Failure: From Hunting Broken Components to Understanding Complex Systems, by Sidney Dekker
Apollo, Challenger, and Columbia: The Decline of the Space Program (A Study in Organizational Communication), by Phillip K. Tompkins
Books mentioned by Uri
Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World, by General Stanley McChrystal
The Mission, The Men, and Me: Lessons from a Former Delta Force Commander, by Peter Blaber
Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin