We here at the Talkhouse Podcast were psyched when Chicago-based indie festival Tomorrow Never Knows asked us to curate a live taping as part of their January 2019 lineup. So, we paired Andy Hull (Manchester Orchestra) and Mike Kinsella (American Football, Owen) for an exclusive conversation and acoustic performance. Thanks to all of you Midwest listeners who braved the winter chill to pack out Sleeping Village! Andy and Mike are old friends, and big fans of each other’s music. They were excited to catch up for this talk, and the ensuing conversation covered a lot, including: their ever-evolving songwriting chops and philosophies; how having kids changes one’s creativity; and what exactly went down at that craziest Owen show ever… The performance setlist is: Andy — “The Gold” Mike — “Love is Not Enough” Andy — “Untitled (Blue)” Mike — “The Desperate Act” Check it out, and subscribe now to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast. Stay up to date on live Talkhouse events with our Events tab. You can also now follow us on Spotify! While you’re there, make sure to check out American Football’s American Football (LP3), out tomorrow. —Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer Today’s episode was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi. It was recorded at Sleeping Village in Chicago by Joe Darnaby and Greg Obis and at Hook and Fade Studios in Brooklyn by Mark Yoshizumi. Additional recording by Josh Modell. The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song was composed and performed by The Range. Thanks to Tomorrow Never Knows, Sleeping Village, and all the Talkhouse fans who roll through our live events.