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65: Woodrow Engle Went from Poker to Magic with a Smart Supportive Inner Circle
FromMTG Pro Tutor - Insights, Tips & Advice from Magic: The Gathering Pros
65: Woodrow Engle Went from Poker to Magic with a Smart Supportive Inner Circle
FromMTG Pro Tutor - Insights, Tips & Advice from Magic: The Gathering Pros
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Length:
59 minutes
Released:
Jan 29, 2016
Format:
Podcast episode
Description
Woodrow Engle is a dual Magic and poker player from Seattle, WA. He broke into the upper tier of tournament play by making his first Grand Prix Top 8 at Grand Prix Oakland 2016.
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First Set
Ice Age
Favorite Set
Rise of the Eldrazi
Favorite Card
Lhurgoyf
What First Got You into Magic?
Woodrow got started as a young kid playing Ice Age, just throwing decks together with his friends and loosely playing by the rules.
After Weatherlight, he stopped playing all the way through college. While working at a game development studio Woodrow was invited to a poker game where he met Ryan Spain and Marshall Sutcliffe, who ended up getting him hooked on Magic again.
From there he quickly went from re-learning the rules to implementing high-end Magic thought processes.
What Makes Magic: The Gathering Fun for You?
Woodrow likes the competitive aspect and how Magic can feel a bit like poker with more skills and variation.
He enjoys how he gets to meet so many people with varying experience levels, and how sometimes he has no idea how good the person playing across from him might be.
Early Challenge
The toughest aspect of Magic for Woodrow when he started out was card evaluation.
It took him a long time to wrap his head around when a card was worth a slot in his hand.
Understanding the opportunity cost of not drawing another card in any given situation is a high level concept that takes time to develop.
Level Up Moment
In his first PTQ Woodrow placed 9th and knew from then on that he wanted to really step up and crush tournaments.
This was around the time the Jund deck took over the Standard scene, and Woodrow set out to brew decks to take it down. Then at the advent of the PPTQ system he managed to win one and made it to a regional Pro Tour qualifier, which he Top 8’d, but missed the qualification by one match.
What Kept You Playing Magic?
When Woodrow felt like he was caught in the grind he took breaks.
Eventually though, he learned to manage his tilt by being mindful and staying positive about his performance.
He reminded himself that a single tournament didn’t define him as a Magic player. This made it more fun for Woodrow to play, as it’s tough to do well in a tournament if you take an early loss and then shut down.
He discovered that ranting about his losses to friends was not only uninteresting for them to hear, but stopped him from identifying his mistakes and pushing forward.
Best Format
Limited
How Do You Manage Tilt?
Woodrow admits it’s difficult to stay focused when you know you’re going to lose a few turns out, but contemplating your outs and staying focused is critical for developing skill.
Players should mentally construct their winning scenario even when they may seem down for the count. This kind of mental fortitude is the mindset all Platinum Pros have when they play, and it’s how a player levels up their own game.
Biggest Mistake Players Make
Being results oriented instead of decision oriented is the crux Woodrow believes most new players face.
As you go through life you want to make sure the decisions you make are sound, even if the end results don’t reflect them. When in this mindset you can realize that sure, you lost a game, but you did everything in your power to try and win it.
Woodrow won a game against Josh Utter-Leyton, but a huge mistake he made in an early turn haunted him afterwards despite the win.
He considers those kind of mistakes to be huge learning opportunities that make him less likely to repeat his blunders.
What Is the Deepest Thing You've Learned About Yourself From Playing Magic?
Woodrow believes that Magic remaps your brain when a player gets really competitive. This has bled over into his normal life, changing how he makes everyday decisions. Trying to get maximum value from limited time with the best decisions possible is an important crossover skill for h
Click to Tweet: I got a ton of value from Woodrow Engle when he shared his story on #MTGProTutor today! Click here: http://bit.ly/mtgprotutor-ep65
First Set
Ice Age
Favorite Set
Rise of the Eldrazi
Favorite Card
Lhurgoyf
What First Got You into Magic?
Woodrow got started as a young kid playing Ice Age, just throwing decks together with his friends and loosely playing by the rules.
After Weatherlight, he stopped playing all the way through college. While working at a game development studio Woodrow was invited to a poker game where he met Ryan Spain and Marshall Sutcliffe, who ended up getting him hooked on Magic again.
From there he quickly went from re-learning the rules to implementing high-end Magic thought processes.
What Makes Magic: The Gathering Fun for You?
Woodrow likes the competitive aspect and how Magic can feel a bit like poker with more skills and variation.
He enjoys how he gets to meet so many people with varying experience levels, and how sometimes he has no idea how good the person playing across from him might be.
Early Challenge
The toughest aspect of Magic for Woodrow when he started out was card evaluation.
It took him a long time to wrap his head around when a card was worth a slot in his hand.
Understanding the opportunity cost of not drawing another card in any given situation is a high level concept that takes time to develop.
Level Up Moment
In his first PTQ Woodrow placed 9th and knew from then on that he wanted to really step up and crush tournaments.
This was around the time the Jund deck took over the Standard scene, and Woodrow set out to brew decks to take it down. Then at the advent of the PPTQ system he managed to win one and made it to a regional Pro Tour qualifier, which he Top 8’d, but missed the qualification by one match.
What Kept You Playing Magic?
When Woodrow felt like he was caught in the grind he took breaks.
Eventually though, he learned to manage his tilt by being mindful and staying positive about his performance.
He reminded himself that a single tournament didn’t define him as a Magic player. This made it more fun for Woodrow to play, as it’s tough to do well in a tournament if you take an early loss and then shut down.
He discovered that ranting about his losses to friends was not only uninteresting for them to hear, but stopped him from identifying his mistakes and pushing forward.
Best Format
Limited
How Do You Manage Tilt?
Woodrow admits it’s difficult to stay focused when you know you’re going to lose a few turns out, but contemplating your outs and staying focused is critical for developing skill.
Players should mentally construct their winning scenario even when they may seem down for the count. This kind of mental fortitude is the mindset all Platinum Pros have when they play, and it’s how a player levels up their own game.
Biggest Mistake Players Make
Being results oriented instead of decision oriented is the crux Woodrow believes most new players face.
As you go through life you want to make sure the decisions you make are sound, even if the end results don’t reflect them. When in this mindset you can realize that sure, you lost a game, but you did everything in your power to try and win it.
Woodrow won a game against Josh Utter-Leyton, but a huge mistake he made in an early turn haunted him afterwards despite the win.
He considers those kind of mistakes to be huge learning opportunities that make him less likely to repeat his blunders.
What Is the Deepest Thing You've Learned About Yourself From Playing Magic?
Woodrow believes that Magic remaps your brain when a player gets really competitive. This has bled over into his normal life, changing how he makes everyday decisions. Trying to get maximum value from limited time with the best decisions possible is an important crossover skill for h
Released:
Jan 29, 2016
Format:
Podcast episode
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