Support this show at patreon.com/incitingincidentpodcast This week, early for patrons, Marissa interviews longtime fan and friend of the show, Ben Keyes. This interview covers Ben's upbringing, confrontations with toxic masculinity, having to learn at an advanced age how to be a friend, and of course, Rissy geeking out over trains. This show is part of the Trans Podcaster Visibility Initiative.  The opening song is written and performed by Shelley Segal. Rissy and Bethany can be reached: Incitingincidentpodcast@gmail.com @RisMcCool @BethanyLFutrell Facebook.com/incitingincidentpodcast This podcast is owned by It’s A Shameful Thing, Lobsterhead! LLC, copyright 2016, All Rights Reserved