Cass and Bob interview Elizabeth from England. She’s a young mother who played keyboards in her church’s worship team with her brother and loved it. She describes her deconversion as a sink hole that was rotting away under the surface for years until one day, it all came crumbing down…but instead of it being a bad thing, it felt right…at last. Now her life is grounded in her marriage, raising their children, and being engaged with friends and family. We taped this talk May 1st, 2016. Subscribe, rate us, and/or leave a review of our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts.  Also, you can support through our Patreon page. Credits: "Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is. Derren Brown the Illusionist’s Youtube channel