President Trump's lawyers are negotiating an interview with the special counsel. Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort's right hand man testifies against Manafort in court. And why is there a divide between what the president says and what his cabinet does? Plus white nationalists plan a rally in Washington, D.C. This episode: White House correspondent Tamara Keith, justice correspondent Ryan Lucas, political reporter Tim Mak, White House reporter Ayesha Rascoe, and national political correspondent Mara Liasson. Email the show at nprpolitics@npr.org. Find and support your local public radio station at npr.org/stations.