Virginia Heffernan talks to Eli Stokols, White House reporter for the LA Times and political analyst at MSNBC, about Trump’s post-election mood and why it’s different from his other moods. Plus, his California wildfire gaffes, a guess at who’s on the short list to leave the White House in the next few weeks, and why he still may have the support of some veterans.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices