She’s spoken at the Women’s March on Washington, hosted a show for MSNBC, edited for Allure and Marie Claire, and written a New York Times bestselling memoir – and that’s not even half of the revolutionary work that trans writer and activist Janet Mock has done in her young career. In this episode, we talk with Janet about the writing process for her latest memoir “Surpassing Certainty,” the strong history and community of trans people in her native Hawaii, why the term “passing” is problematic for her, and why we should complicate our language when we use the word “woman”. For those of you who don’t know Janet: You’re about to become fans!

Find Janet’s books, podcast (Never Before), and speaking events at www.janetmock.com. And follow Janet on Twitter!: @janetmock

We’re going on break for TWO WEEKS! Kamau and Hari are going to miss you. So listen to their standup, read their books, watch them on CNN, and find them in person at http://www.wkamaubell.com/ and http://www.harikondabolu.com/. Thanks, and be back soon!