On this episode Melanie and I talk to our (hilarious) (also deeply gifted) singer / songwriter / comedian friend Dave Barnes, and unfortunately I forgot to hit "record" for the first 15-20 minutes of our conversation. SO THERE'S THAT. And what that means for you, dear listener, is that when I finally did in fact hit the record button, we were smack-dab in the middle of a conversation about the Enneagram and introversion / extroversion. So just stick with us during what will certainly feel like conversational whiplash. It'll all make sense soon enough. And despite my personal technical ineptitude, I have to say that talking with Dave was super encouraging for Melanie and me (and I think it will be for you, too). He has such great perspective on writing / creating, and the way he thinks through that whole process was really therapeutic for us. We talk a lot about calling and the vulnerability involved in walking out whatever that calling happens to be - not to mention that we laugh a ton. We also talk about the State / Ole Miss rivalry. Because OF COURSE. Just keep in mind that we recorded this episode before Mullen and Sumlin left the Bulldogs and the Aggies, respectively (WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, y'all. WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW). Enjoy, everybody! "God Gave Me You" "Craving You" Enneagram 9 - Sophie and Melanie are both 9s Enneagram 7 - Dave Barnes is a 7 Chasing Mississippi - Dave's album that totally hooked us over a decade ago Hymns for Her - Dave's album that made Sophie cry the first time she listened Who Knew It Would Be So Hard to Be Myself? - Dave's new album (four new songs out Tuesday 12/12!) (we'll update the link after the songs are released) "Tell Her You Do" "This Christmas" A December to Remember - Dave's incredible Christmas album (he has two of them - and both are great!) Sock Club KIND Snack Cube