In this episode Marc Hays and Daniel Shirley discuss the final section of Norms and Nobility Chapter 3. They discuss questions like, "How can we learn without encountering what we don't know?" and "What does friendship between parents as teachers and their children as students look like? 20% off Norms & Nobility at www.classicalconversationsbooks.com through May 31 when listeners use NORMSPOD20 at checkout.