Welcome to FORMA, a podcast featuring conversations with authors, teachers, creators, and community leaders who are carefully contemplating the nature and practice of classical education.  In this episode, David chats with John Hodges, our friend from the Center for Western Studies, about ways of cultivating a love of music. Topics include teaching music when you are "musically limited," self-education in music, composer study, musical pieces that children love, pop music, and much more.