Welcome to FORMA, a podcast featuring conversations with authors, teachers, creators, and community leaders who are carefully contemplating the nature and practice of classical education and the arts.In this episode, David chats with Jack Baker and Jeffrey Bilbro, authors of the book, Wendell Berry and Higher Education: Cultivating Virtues of Place. Discussion touches on why Berry is so widely loved among people of so many persuasions and walks of life, his cynicism about modern higher education, the future of higher education in America, what a Wendell Berry College might look like, and more.