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Jan 27, 2017
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I’m not a huge fan of using leverage in a retirement account.  But this time, it makes some sense.  I’m Bryan Ellis.  I’ll tell you about this special case right now in Episode #243 of Self Directed Investor Talk. ----- Hello Self Directed Investor Nation!  Welcome back to the podcast of record for savvy self-directed investors like you… where all we ask of you is 7 minutes a day… and in return, we give you MASTERY as a self-directed investor. Hey folks, I hope you’ve taken the time to check out the BRAND NEW website for this show, SDITalk.com.  It’s designed specifically to give you much easier access to all of the information you love, and it is, STILL, 100% free!  Check it out now… SDITalk.com. Quick note, too… you’ve heard me say it before, and I’ll say it again:  If you need funding for your deals or your business, the best interest rate to pay is ZERO.  The best type of collateral to place is NONE.  And the best kind of credit to have is CASH credit.  So, if you’re interested in up to $250,000 of zero collateral, zero interest CASH CREDIT, stop by SDITalk.com/credit for a free webinar on that very topic.  SDITalk.com/credit.  You’ll be very glad you did! Ok, here’s the deal:  I’m just not a big fan of using leverage in a retirement account.  By leverage, of course I mean getting a loan, usually to buy real estate. It’s totally legal to do that in your IRA or 401k, you just have to make sure that the loan fits the right parameters.  Setting aside that issue, it’s really not a big issue anymore, as the number of IRA-compliant lenders is growing each year. Having said that, I’m still just leary of leverage.  I’m a fan of the Dave Ramsey school of thought where debt is a bad idea period.  I actually don’t believe that, but frankly, that’s a mindset that will never steer you wrong. But hey… sometimes, you do what you’ve got to do. And one of those circumstances comes up for people who invest their IRA in real estate. Actually, there are two situations. One of them is this one: You’ve done well, you’re in your retirement years, your account has about a million dollar’s worth of real estate in it, and that’s when you’re told you’ve got to pay out the dreaded RMD – required minimum distribution.  That’s the withdrawal the IRS forces you to take even if you don’t want it, just so that they can get some income taxes from you. And with an account of that size, it’s totally plausible that a person in their 70’s will have an RMD of $40,000 to $50,000 per year. Well what if you’re fully invested… maybe you own 3 or 4 properties and that’s all that’s in your account? Well, you MUST pay the RMD… penalties for failure are rather severe… so I see 3 options here: You pay the money with cash on hand outside your retirement account You sell one of those properties to raise the cash, taking on the valuation discount that’ll likely be necessary if you have to do a quick sale to pay the RMD, or… You get a small loan in your IRA against one of the properties, and pay the RMD with that! Now obviously this is contingent on whether your properties generate sufficient cash flow to cover the payments, but they certainly should. A similar strategy might be useful for that kind of circumstance where you just need a large chunk of cash from your IRA or 401k, and the only way to get it would be to sell a property.  In that case, it might be worth getting an equity loan against the property instead if you believe there’s still upside in that property. I’m thinking specifically about college expenses.  I’m 42 years old, and while I have one child in college and one who is a junior in high school, I also have one who is 3 years old and one who is 2 years old.  That means that right about the time I start to be able to withdraw money from my IRA, I could use that money to pay for college.  But I just can’t imagine actually SELLING real estate for that reason.  Rather, I can totally envision getting a low LTV loan against those properties so I can pay thos
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