Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti interview Debra Newell about surviving serial perpetrator Dirty John Meehan. Debra bravely shares her story, we discuss some golden rules when on-line dating and Debra reveals that whilst John was profiling her, she was investigating him. Listen to the episode and find out what she discovered.#HerNameISDebraNewell#CoerciveControl#DirtyJohnCheck out the Wondery and LA Times podcast 'Dirty John, the Bravo show 'Dirty John' and the Oxygen documentary 'Dirty John, the Dirty Truth.'For more information about coercive controlhttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/deep-diving-coercive-control/Some golden rules about online datinghttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/some-golden-rules-and-advice-about-online-dating/Advice if you are being abusedhttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/advice-if-you-are-experiencing-abuse/This Episode is sponsored by SimpliSafeGet Free Shipping on any order by visiting SimpliSafe.com/REALCRIMEAlso Sponsored by CalmGo to Calm.com/REALCRIME for 25% off a Calm Premium Prescription And by Man CratesJust for Valentine's Day get 14% off when you spend $100 or more at ManCrates.com/REALCRIME