Kirk and Jason start off the show by talking about the new indie games What Remains Of Edith Finch and The Sexy Brutale before jumping into this week's news: the announcement of Call of Duty: WWII (13:01), an Overwatch player's racist tirade (21:48), and Persona 5 localization complaints (28:02). Then they bring on veteran programmer Brett Douville (38:12) to talk about the stresses of LucasArts, his work at Bethesda on Fallout 3 and Skyrim, and his lovely podcast, Dev Game Club.