Alice Tams is a full-time illustrator, running her own business from a studio in London. She is the creator of a popular series of illustrations of birds wearing a variety of hats (#BirdsInHats)- which I have hanging on my bedroom wall, given to me as a present from my boyfriend. You can find her products online at her stop alicetams.com - or in the Etsy shop - and physically at one of her stockists. In December 2013, Alice drew a penguin in a christmas hat and jumper and had used it on a Christmas card. In December 2014, Alice was contacted by several friends that a jumper on sale in supermarket featuring a penguin in a hat and Christmas jumper. They all thought that Alice had licensed her penguin design because it looked identical to Alice’s design. So we talk about this and Alice’s learnings along the way. Hope you enjoy listening to our conversation and follow Alice online @alicetams across most of the social medias. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy