The Australian Women's Weekly

“Our kids need us to do better than the average parent”

Best friends Kate Jones and Mandy Hose crossed their fingers, took a deep breath and did what comes naturally – they poured their hearts out. It was 2019 and the self-described “mediocre mums” boldly took to the airwaves from a humble studio set-up in Kate’s den, chatting, laughing and at times crying over the vagaries of daily life experienced by families with additional needs kids. It was their first podcast.

“We know you’re only listening because you know us,” Kate joked at the time. “But soon we’ll be huge.” Little did she know. The pilot episode was cathartic for the mums who’d both endured a roller-coaster ride since the premature arrival of

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