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  • The Team Roping Journal

    (At Home With)

    Jun 11, 2019 4 minutes
    By Kendra Santos

    Q: You roped at your first NFR in 1963 with R.D. Rutledge. Who were you heading for at the Finals when you won your world championships?

    A: I roped with John Bill Rodriguez in 1970 and Ace Berry in 1971.

    Q: What do you think about world champion headers and heelers being crowned separately today, and who would have been the world champion heeler when you won the world?

    They needed to do that for a long time. Headers and heelers are two different animals, and they both deserve recognition—the best header and heeler going should win

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